Book Discussion: Punished by Rewards (Part 2 – Motivation)

February 3, 2012 4:35 pm

51EJGHFCM5L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_In Part 1 I discussed Kohn’s argument for rewards/punishments creating self-centered individuals and how urging a focus on rewards/punishments can have unintended consequences by encouraging short-cutting the desired behavior in order to satisfy the requirements of receiving the reward or avoiding the punishment.

Here, in Part 2, I will discuss motivation and the interaction between it and rewards/punishments.

And in Part 3 I’ll go over Kohn’s alternatives to rewards and punishments.

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Many people want an answer to the question, “How do I motivate my employees/students/children?”  Kohn’s response is that you don’t.  The best you can do is get demotivators out of their way and provide a nurturing, encouraging, environment.

Well, surely this isn’t right.  If I tell my kid that for every piece of paper they fold in half I’ll give them a dollar it’s almost a sure bet that I won’t be able to find an unfolded piece of paper before long.  Certainly that means the promise of payment motivated the child to fold paper, right?  And you are absolutely right.  So let’s discuss what Kohn means and how it applies.

Intrinsic versus Extrinsic Motivation

We make a distinction between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation.  Intrinsic motivation is your internal desire to do something.  It stems from your own interest in the matter and the enjoyment you find in pursuing it.  Extrinsic motivation is applied from the outside–it is external to your self.  Paying someone money to do something is to give them an extrinsic motivator.  The idea is that we only do things that we are motivated to do, however that motivation may be either intrinsic or extrinsic.  And there’s a big difference between the two.

A person motivated intrinsically is much more likely to persevere at a difficult task and for much longer periods of time than someone motivated extrinsically.  Many actions undertaken because of extrinsic motivation will quickly disappear once the outside factor is removed.

What’s really interesting, however, is the interaction between the two.  Extrinsically motivated actions often disappear at the loss of the motivator, but extrinsic motivation can actually replace intrinsic motivation and getting the intrinsic motivation back is difficult.  That is to say, if a child enjoys drawing pictures and you tell them you’ll pay them for each picture they draw (and do), and then you stop paying them, the child is very likely to no longer have an interest in drawing pictures (at least for some period of time).  You have, essentially, ripped from them their intrinsic motivation, replaced it with an external motivator, and then took away the external motivator.

Think about what this means, long term, for the kinds of things to which we apply extrinsic motivators.  It is possible (though not assured) that you can destroy the joy someone finds in an activity by actively rewarding them for doing the activity.

Consequences of Extrinsic Motivators

The ability for extrinsic to replace intrinsic motivation is not the end of the problems though.  Extrinsic motivators work great on simple, mechanical tasks.  However, they fail miserably at tasks requiring creativity or complex problem solving.  In fact, not only do they fail, they result in worse performance than when no extrinsic motivator is present.  One possible explanation is that because the motivator focuses our attention on the motivator rather than the task we fail to think deeply about the task in our rush to obtain the reward or avoid the punishment.

Artistic works produced for commissions are judged to be less creative than those done without.  Students take longer trying to find the solution to creative problems when told their performance is being measured.   When performance is being measured and reported students become more interested in how they’re doing compared to their peers than how they’re doing on the task.

Extrinsic motivators also harm the relationship between the motivator and the motivatee.  It sets the two apart as one having power and the other not.  It sets up a relationship of control rather than respect.  It often leads to resentment.

And there are plenty of other problems with the use of extrinsic motivators.

Nurturing Intrinsic Motivation

I stated at the beginning that Kohn’s recommendation was to remove demotivators instead of enacting extrinsic motivators.  This is, of course, much harder than just promising rewards.  Part 3 will discuss some of the alternatives.

Book Discussion: Punished by Rewards (Part 1 – Self-Centeredness and Unintended Consequences)

4:28 pm
51EJGHFCM5L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_I’ve just finished reading Alfie Kohn’s book Punished by Rewards.  I found it very interesting.  He approaches the use of rewards (and punishments) from a general position and then specifically within business, school, and parenting.  Most of his arguments are supported with research (and when they aren’t he plainly labels them as his opinions without documented research) with references and end-notes comprising 106 pages.  I’ll also probably be drawing on things I read in Nurture Shock and Drive which cover similar topics.

I’m going to break this up into 3 posts because there’s a lot to discuss and this way you might actually read it.  This post will discuss Kohn’s points on how behaviorist approaches result in self-centeredness and the unintended consequences of reward/punishment fixation.  Part 2 will discuss the effect of rewards/punishment on motivation, and part 3 will go over Kohn’s alternatives.  My apologizes to Mr. Kohn if I misrepresent his arguments in any way.

Unlike Erin’s recent experience of an author’s insistence that a technique will always work, Kohn is much more realistic in the respect that there are very few absolutes (if any) in human behavior and you can only really talk about generalities.  However, if you’re expecting to find a list of “things to do” to get your kids to behave you won’t find it in this book.

One of Kohn’s pet-peeves (if I can call it that) is that people only want quick fixes.  He is first in line to admit that punishments and rewards are quick fixes, but they’re also temporary fixes with lasting negative consequences.  He does not offer an alternative quick fix, but instead offers a much broader approach to situations typically governed by bribes or threats to effect long-term development goals rather than immediate compliance.

While he goes into much greater depth on these subjects than I will, there were several things that stuck with me.  His discussions resonated with my experiences and I really think he makes a strong case.

I’m going to start this discussion in much the same way that Kohn does.  What do you want your employees/students/children to achieve?  What are your goals for them?  I’ll come back to these questions in part 3, but Kohn’s broad point (and the “too long; didn’t read” version of the book) is that the vast majority of stated responses to these questions are directly undermined by the use of rewards and punishments.

Rewards and Punishments

Before we dive in, lets quickly talk about what we mean by a “reward” or “punishment”.  Essentially, anything that imposes a positive emotion (reward) or a negative emotion (punishment) qualifies.  This could be imposing or removing something pleasant, or imposing or removing something unpleasant.  More explicitly, this could be inflicting physical pain, verbal scolding, verbal praising, giving toys, taking away food, giving gold star stickers, monetary bonuses, etc.

That seems like it covers pretty much everything we might do as employers/teachers/parents.  And, from Kohn’s perspective, that speaks to the pervasiveness of behaviorism.  We’ll get to the alternatives in part 3, but for now we should point out that there is a component of intention and perception.  If you intend your action to be controlling or manipulative then you will probably get some of the negative consequences.  Also, if the subject perceives the action as controlling or manipulative you are probably going to see the negative consequences we’ll be discussing.

Self-Centeredness

One of his arguments is that rewards and punishments (the classic behaviorist/Skinnerian approaches) create self-centered individuals.  Everything is governed by how it affects “me.”  I don’t steal because I’ll go to jail.  I do my homework because I’ll get a good grade.  I work hard so I’ll get a bonus.

If you ask a behaviorist to do something they are going to ask, “What’s in it for me?”.

In a strictly behaviorist approach there’s no discussion about others or a greater sense of ethics or morality.  We are taught that we don’t steal simply because we’ll go to jail and we ignore the bigger picture of how stealing affects the person we’re stealing from.  We don’t learn that we shouldn’t steal because it unfairly deprives another person of their property.

A natural consequence seems to be that if we only do things because of how it will affect us, then the moment we think we can get away from any negative effects, there’s nothing stopping us.  Why not steal if no one’s looking and it’s unlikely anyone will find out?  I won’t go to jail, there will be no negative result for me, and I’ll end up with more money.  It becomes much easier to rationalize this position if you’ve only learned to think about yourself and have never been taught to empathize with others or find greater moral/ethical reasons for your actions.

Unintended Consequences

The other side of this is that we learn to focus on the reward/punishment instead of the activity itself.  People, in general, will begin looking for ways to bypass the hard part (generally the desired behavior) and just get the reward (or avoid the punishment).  If we’re taught to focus on good grades then cheating appears as a great way to avoid the hard work of learning, but still get the reward of the good grade.  If we’re taught to focus on not going to jail then we may look for ways to avoid getting caught instead of not doing something illegal in the first place.

One of my favorite expressions of this type of reasoning was incredibly common throughout my high school and undergraduate experiences.  The teacher begins discussing a topic and after a few minutes someone’s hand goes up to ask, “Is this going to be on the test?”.  It’s such a perfect example of focusing on the reward (getting a good grade on the test) instead of the thing that actually matters (you know, actually learning something).  I saw this exact thing happen dozens of times.

Now, I’d like to pause here for a minute to give you the perspective I’m coming from.  I’m not here to argue against grades because I always did poorly and this is my way of making myself feel better by saying grades shouldn’t really matter.

Quite the contrary, I always did very well in school.  I graduated high school at the top of my class as co-salutatorian.  I went through my bachelor’s degree on a full-ride scholarship.  I’m certainly not saying this to toot my horn; I’m saying it to show that, as someone who succeeded in (and highly benefited from) the current system, I see a better way. A way which would serve everyone better and not just those of us that are adept at the specific school setting we went through.

A Rumination on Science and Education

September 7, 2011 8:21 pm

I’m currently reading a biography of the physicist Richard Feynman (by James Gleick).  So far it’s excellent.  What I’m really fascinated with right now is (at least how Gleick portrays) the progression of science during Feynman’s schooling years (the mid to late 1930s).  The number of high caliber physicists at the time (and the time just leading up to it) is astounding: Einstein, Bohr, Rutherford, Heisenberg, Dirac, Lorentz, Schrödinger, De Broglie, Fermi, Oppenheimer, and I’m probably missing some still.  Those guys are each incredible scientists in their own right and it’s no wonder the understanding of physics changed so dramatically during the 1930s.  The only comparison I can think of is the progression of art during the European Renaissance.

As I’m reading, I can’t help but wonder about what set apart that time period in history from anything since in terms of scientific progression.  Computer Science has a similar vein of tumultuous rapid progression during the era of Turing, von Neumann, Dijkstra, Gödel, Church, Cook, Levin, Kleene, Shannon…But as I’m looking at it, most of these pioneers (in fact, all but Dijsktra) were essentially contemporaries of the physics revolution being discussed.  They all would have been products of the same time period of schooling (whether in the U.S. or Europe).  Which further raises the question of what was so different about the education systems through which these incredible people went?

Sadly, I don’t really have an answer.  But if we’re looking to reform our education system for better results, what better goal than to figure out what was happening in education from about 1910-1935?

But then, maybe it wasn’t the education system at all.  Maybe it was the societal mindset about learning and discovery.  Maybe it was simply that the education system and society didn’t inhibit the intense drive for understanding and innovation that these people felt.  Quoting from page 63 of the book (Genius: The Life and Science of Richard Feynman):

At MIT in the thirties the nerd did not exist; a penholder worn in the shirt pocket represented no particular gaucherie; a boy could not become a figure of fun merely by studying….America’s future scientists and engineers, many of them rising from the working class, valued studiousness without question.

If this is an accurate portrayal of the time period, it certainly helps explain to me why so many incredible scientists were produced during that era.  Gleick describes in one passage of how Feynman and many of his contemporaries grew up reading the Encyclopedia Britannica eager to learn more about the world around them.

They tinkered with, broke, and repaired things–something I think is rarely encouraged these days.  I know this is one of the ways I developed my own interests in science and computers.  I wanted to learn how things worked, so I played with them, changed them, broke them, and attempted to repair them (sometimes successfully).

People are inquisitive by nature.  I think we, as a society, are getting far too good at crushing that inquisitiveness with standardized lesson plans which allow no room for deviation to follow student interests, standardized pedagogy which insists all students learn in the same way, and standardized tests which demand that all students regurgitate their “knowledge” in one, simplified fashion.

If there’s one thing I learned in the years I worked as a T.A. it’s that students assimilate information in incredibly varied ways.  Its hard to come up with new approaches to the material on-the-fly in order to try to help the student make the connection.  But if you don’t, and instead insist on “the one true approach” to the material, the student will fall behind, become discouraged, and lose interest in the subject matter.

We need to encourage the asking of questions and the seeking out of answers by research, experimentation, or otherwise.  We need to foster the innate curiosity, creativity, and inquisitiveness that children have.

I’m not so concerned with the mindless consumption of media or playing of games because our minds need downtime to process and assimilate the world around us.  However, I think the hours spent watching TV and browsing the Internet are more of a symptom than a cause; in that we still seek out “new” things, just in a manner that parents aren’t worried about anyone getting hurt or anything getting broken.  But situations where one might get hurt or something might get broken are, by far, the most likely situations where we might actually learn and remember a lesson.

Creating Evil Traps for Good People

August 15, 2011 2:08 pm

This is another post elicited from The Lucifer Effect by Philip Zimbardo.  First, a word about the book.  The first bit of the book is a walk-through of the events that occurred during the Stanford Prison Experiment.  He bases it off of the transcripts and recordings that were made and he keeps it accurate and scientific, but the transcripts of interactions between guards and prisoners is riddled with obscenities–just a word of warning to anyone planning to read it.  If that bothers you, you can just skip those chapters and move right into the discussion afterwards, but you may not fully appreciate the transformation of the participants.

This post comes from chapter 12, from a subsection entitled “Ten Lessons from the Milgram Studies: Creating Evil Traps for Good People” which begins on page 273.

Stanley Milgram ran a long series of experiments that involve participants believing that they are inducing increasingly powerful electro-shocks to another participant (a confederate acting the part of being shocked).  They do so under the guise of a memory-enhancement training program while being watched and ordered about by an official looking “scientist.”  During the course of the experiment the participants must administer a shock each time the “learner” provides a wrong answer.  During the course of the experiment the confederate “learner” screams in pain, demands to be released (he’s strapped down), complains about his heart hurting, and eventually stops responding (suggesting to the participant that the learner has become unconscious).

The participants almost always look to the “scientist” for guidance as things get bad, but the scientist always gives them reasons to continue with the experiment unless they simply get up and leave.  65% of participants followed the experiment all the way through the 30 levels of shocks.

Milgram ran this experiment over and over again all around the world making slight variations on the design to try and learn more about what factors contribute to participants’ conformity.  It’s really interesting.

I want to talk about the 10 methods of inducing compliance that are pulled from Milgram’s experiments.  These techniques are used very successfully in myriad settings including: salespeople, cults, the military, governments, advertising, and others.  Each item has its own paragraph, so I’m going to summarize them briefly:

  1. Create a contractual obligation (verbal or written).
  2. Give participants a role to fill (“teacher” in the above).
  3. Dictate a set of rules to be followed which can then be used to coerce behavior.
  4. Replace potential unpleasant descriptions with positive descriptions (“shocking victims” to “helping a person learn”).
  5. Tell participants that someone else will take responsibility for what happens.
  6. Use an initial innocuous-appearing step to elicit initial compliance.
  7. Use successive steps towards the end goal, each of which seems like a negligible change from the previous step.
  8. Have the authority figure slowly change from “just and reasonable” to “unjust and demanding.”
  9. Make it difficult and expensive (in some form, not necessarily monetary) to exit the situation, but allow verbal dissent while demanding behavioral compliance.
  10. Provide some “greater good” for participants to believe in.

The last one is interesting.  Zimbardo elaborates discussing Erich Fromm’s 1941 work Escape from Freedom.  In this work, Fromm discusses how throughout time the “greater good” used by dictators and tyrants in order to convince citizens to give up their freedoms is a promise of security.

I also can’t help but read that list and think of how accurately it fits with how the TSA has operated since its creation.  Here’s how I think the rules (except 2 and 5) easily apply to the TSA’s behavior:

  1. Can’t fly unless you agree to be screened.
  2. Laptops out, liquids in baggy, shoes off, belts off, coats off, “step over here.”
  3. We’re not violating your civil rights, we’re protecting you from terrorists!
  4. Just step through the metal detector, it’s quick, easy, and somewhat effective.
  5. Okay, now we just need you to take your shoes off.  And your belt.  And your coat.  And remove your computer.  Oh and just put your liquids in a baggy for us.  And stand in this chemical sniffer.  Also, if you wouldn’t mind, just stand here while we bounce radiation off of you to create an image of your body.
  6. Any appeal to reason or logic is met with a stiff reference to the rules and to fall in line or you just might miss your flight.
  7. Don’t want to be part of the TSA process?  Your only option is to not travel by plane (and soon by bus or rail if the TSA gets its way).  Have a complaint? You can file it with headquarters and we’ll say “thanks for your concern” and then completely ignore it and tell you to get back in line.
  8. It’s for your own protection.

If you’re so inclined you can probably turn these around and see how they are used against the TSA agents to convince them that further abuse of passenger’s civil rights is acceptable.

It’s incredibly effective.  Just think of what the national reaction would have been if, when the TSA was instituted, they had rolled out the body imaging scanners and said these are now required for all flights.  People would have flipped out.  Instead it was one slow addition to the rules after another until people just accepted the new scanners.  Those that did complain were told that their comments were appreciated and then nothing changed.  Now the TSA talks about how few complaints they get about the scanners / pat-downs (only several hundred per year!) which is a useless figure because it ignores the thousands of people who will no longer fly to avoid the issue (like myself).  As of July  2011, Amtrak has had 20 consecutive months of record numbers of passengers, but surely that has nothing to do with how awful and demeaning airports have become.

All too familiar

August 7, 2011 1:44 pm

I don’t remember where I heard about it originally, but I’ve had the book The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil (by Philip Zimbardo) on my wishlist for a little while.  Yesterday I was able to pick it up at the library and I’m reading it now.  I have a feeling there may be several blog posts that come out of this book.

The author is the creator of the infamous 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment (wherein students were randomly assigned as prisoners or guards and during which things went terribly wrong).  So he has a long and varied history of studying human behavior.

I’m only on page 11 but he already describes something that is all too apropos:

When a power elite wants to destroy an enemy nation, it turns to propaganda experts to fashion a program of hate.  What does it take for the citizens of one society to hate the citizens of another society to the degree that they want to segregate them, torment them, even kill them?  It requires a “hostile imagination,” a psychological construction embedded deeply in their minds by propaganda that transforms those others into “The Enemy.”  That image is a soldier’s most powerful motive, one that loads his rifle with ammunition of hate and fear.  The image of a dreaded enemy threatening one’s personal well-being and the society’s national security emboldens mothers and fathers to send sons to war and empowers governments to rearrange priorities to turn plowshares into swords of destruction.

It is all done with words and images.  To modify an old adage: Sticks and stones may break your bones, but names can sometimes kill you.  The process begins with creating stereotyped conceptions of the other, dehumanized perceptions of the other, the other as worthless, the other as all-powerful, the other as demonic, the other as an abstract monster, the other as a fundamental threat to our cherished values and beliefs.  With public fear notched up and the enemy threat imminent, reasonable people act irrationally, independent people act in mindless conformity, and peaceful people act as warriors.  Dramatic visual images of the enemy on posters, television, magazine covers, movies, and the Internet imprint on the recesses of the limbic system, the primitive brain, with the powerful emotions of fear and hate. [The Lucifer Effect p11 – emphasis mine]

I read that and I can’t help but think of what’s happened in our country since 2001.  How much blind hatred has been stirred up against an entire people because of the actions of a few?  How many ways have we willingly allowed the feelings of fear, suspicion, and vulnerability be used as reason to change our society without factual basis?

It certainly has happened and is happening against anyone with a Middle-Eastern skin tone or practicing Islam.  But it’s also spilling over into the rest of our societal interactions as well.  Has this not been the exact effect we’ve been seeing in political debates?  It’s always how the “other side” is trying to destroy everything we hold near and dear.  Political ads are designed to instill fear and anger about what the “other side” is doing.  Carefully designed to get you to react emotionally rather than intellectually.  Because an intellectual position can be discussed and reconsidered; attempting to discuss an emotional position makes you “one of them.”

As a society we’re being pitted against each other.  It bothers me how much outright propaganda we allow because even when you know it to be nonsense and predatory it still achieves its goal of creating a new baseline of emotion.  A new baseline of suspicion, fear, and anger.  And making those emotions normal is only going to lead to trouble.